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- From: hneeman@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Henry Neeman)
- Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc
- Subject: Re: Is democratech.org the next Canter and Siegel?
- Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 17:25:16 GMT
- Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
- Lines: 103
- Message-ID: <1995May18.172516.20680@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
- References: <feedback-1705950024330001@dyn-293.direct.ca> <3pe3de$mju@nkosi.well.com> <feedback-1705952148350001@dyn-200.direct.ca>
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- Originator: hneeman@landrew.ncsa.uiuc.edu
-
- This note is directed at the various Democratech representatives posting
- >from feedback@democratech.org. Up until now, they have seemed not to
- understand what we've been saying, so I'm putting it in simple English.
- Everything below is in simple sentences of one syllable words only.
-
- -----BEGIN SIMPLE ENGLISH MESSAGE-----
-
- You do not get it. I will tell you. I hope you will get it.
-
- You spammed.
-
- We do not like spam. Spam is bad. Spam hurts the net. We like the net.
- So we do not like spam. In fact, we hate spam.
-
- What is spam? Spam is the same thing lots and lots of times.
-
- What is lots and lots? We will not tell you. Why? We think you might
- post one less, and then say it is not spam. But we will tell you this:
- count the things on your hands and feet. It is near that.
-
- What is spam not? Spam is not a bad post. Spam is not a bad post lots
- and lots of times. Spam is not a post in the wrong place. Spam is not
- a bad post in the wrong place lots and lots of times.
-
- Spam is the same thing lots and lots of times.
-
- We do not care what is in a spam. We do not care if it is in the right
- place or the wrong place. If we cared, that would be bad. If we did not
- like a post, we could say it is bad, so it is spam. Or we could say it
- is in the wrong place, so it is spam. That would be worse than spam. So
- we say a thing is spam if it is the same thing lots and lots of times.
-
- One more time: spam is the same thing lots and lots of times.
-
- Why is spam bad? The more times it is there, the more room it takes
- on each site's disk, and the more time it takes to get it to all of
- the sites. It should take just a small bit of room on each site's
- disk, and take just a small bit of time to get there. So spam is a
- lot of waste.
-
- Why else is spam bad? The more times it is there, the more times we
- have to see it. Some folks pay for their news by the note, or by the
- byte, or by how much time it takes them to get it. Some have to pay
- for each post in a group they read, and their site does not care if
- they read the post. So spam is not fair.
-
- Why else is spam bad? Spam makes folks mad. They post notes and say
- that they are mad. Lots and lots of notes. We call these notes
- "flames." So spam makes lots and lots of flames.
-
- Why is a small spam bad? Some folks think that if a small thing is
- not bad, then the same thing big is not bad too. So if a small spam
- is not yelled at, then there will be lots and lots of big spams.
-
- What did you do? You sent the same thing lots and lots of times. So
- you spammed. Spam is bad.
-
- We do not care what you said. We do not care if it was in the right
- place. You sent the same thing lots and lots of times. That is spam.
- That is bad.
-
- Some folks like to get rid of spam when they see it. We think that is
- good. We like them. We think they are good.
-
- When they get rid of spam, they get rid of all of it. They do not try
- to think if some of the posts are in the wrong place and just get rid
- of those ones. That would be bad. As bad as to say that a post is
- spam if they did not like it. No, they get rid of all of them. That
- is the right way to get rid of spam.
-
- Not all folks think we should do this. There are a few, like Dave
- Hayes, who think spam should be left there, that we should all be free
- to spam and spam and spam. But there are lots and lots more who think
- spam should be got rid of.
-
- Why are we mad at you? You spammed. But there is more: when we said
- we were mad, you said you did not spam. And you said few of us were mad.
- And you said your spam was not bad because it was in the right place.
- And you said that we should not get rid of it. Or that we should not get
- rid of the ones in the right place.
-
- You said you will do it no more. We do not know if we think that is
- true. Why? You said things that we think are bad. You did things that
- we think are bad. So we do not trust you. We think you might do it the
- next time you think of a thing you want lots and lots of folks to hear.
-
- How can you make us think you will do it no more, and that you are good
- folks?
-
- (1) Say that what you did was spam.
- (2) Say that what you did was bad.
- (3) Say that you feel bad since you did this bad thing.
- (4) *Then* say that you will do it no more.
-
- Then we might trust you. Then we might not be mad at you.
-
- That is not too hard for you to get, is it?
-
- -----END SIMPLE ENGLISH MESSAGE-----
-
- Henry Neeman
- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
- hneeman@ncsa.uiuc.edu
-
-